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Freemasonry and 9/11
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R***@hotmail.com
2009-02-17 21:59:28 UTC
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Were any Freemasons killed in 9/11?

Does anyone know of a url that refers to any being killed?

It has been suggested in another usenet group that there were none,
with the implication that this is suspicious ...
Mudge
2009-02-18 02:12:35 UTC
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Post by R***@hotmail.com
Were any Freemasons killed in 9/11?
Does anyone know of a url that refers to any being killed?
It has been suggested in another usenet group that there were none,
with the implication that this is suspicious ...
You mean to tell me that you didn't get the International all points
bulletin telling all Masons to stay away from New York and Washington
on that day ???

Hmmmm - the Inner Circle seems to be failing us, somehow !
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Save our precious CO2 - plant many trees
Chris H
2009-02-19 14:29:06 UTC
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Post by R***@hotmail.com
Were any Freemasons killed in 9/11?
Does anyone know of a url that refers to any being killed?
It has been suggested in another usenet group that there were none,
with the implication that this is suspicious ...
As many Masons do not advertise their membership and I assume no one
went round asking if the deceased were members of the

Boy Scouts
Girl Guides
Rotary
Round Table
Freemasons
Amnesty International
Green Peace
Political Parties in General
Buffalos
Etc
Etc
Etc

There will be no reliable data on this and the fact that no victims were
specifically identified as Freemasons (or Illuminate :-) means nothing.
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Dave Vick
2009-02-19 15:20:15 UTC
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Post by R***@hotmail.com
Were any Freemasons killed in 9/11?
Probably. More likely than not, I would surmise. There were probably a
few Elks, Eagles, Kiwanians, Rotarians, and Phi Beta Kappas killed, too.
Post by R***@hotmail.com
It has been suggested in another usenet group that there were none,
with the implication that this is suspicious ...
Yeah well... It has also been suggested in "another usenet group" that
the CIA maintains a secret torture & interrogation center on the dark
side of moon, and that extra-terrestrials drew the designs on the Nazca
Plains and are living in a submersible spaceship on the bottom of Lake
Titicaca...

"Another usenet newsgroup" has always been such a reliable source of
information, over the years. [*snort*]

-Dave
Co-moderator
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Dave Vick, PM
Lansing #33, Michigan
(currently in Ft. Lauderdale, FL)
Chris H
2009-02-19 22:47:36 UTC
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Post by Dave Vick
Post by R***@hotmail.com
Were any Freemasons killed in 9/11?
Probably. More likely than not, I would surmise. There were probably a
few Elks, Eagles, Kiwanians, Rotarians, and Phi Beta Kappas killed, too.
Post by R***@hotmail.com
It has been suggested in another usenet group that there were none,
with the implication that this is suspicious ...
Yeah well... It has also been suggested in "another usenet group" that
the CIA maintains a secret torture & interrogation center on the dark
side of moon,
It is at Bagram Airport near Karbul
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Dave Vick
2009-02-23 01:47:11 UTC
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Post by Chris H
Post by Dave Vick
Yeah well... It has also been suggested in "another usenet group" that
the CIA maintains a secret torture & interrogation center on the dark
side of moon,
It is at Bagram Airport near Karbul
Bagram Airport is on the dark side of the moon?!?

[*boggle!*]

-Dave
Co-moderator
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Dave Vick, PM
Lansing #33, Michigan
(on vacation with the wife in sarasota, fl)
Jim Bennie
2009-02-21 18:52:05 UTC
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Post by R***@hotmail.com
Were any Freemasons killed in 9/11?
Probably. More likely than not, I would surmise. There were probably a
few Elks, Eagles, Kiwanians, Rotarians, and Phi Beta Kappas killed, too.
But no konspiracy kooks were killed.

Coincidence? Or...

Jim, Vancouver
Janet Wintermute
2009-02-21 05:33:45 UTC
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Post by R***@hotmail.com
Were any Freemasons killed in 9/11?
Does anyone know of a url that refers to any being killed?
It has been suggested in another usenet group that there were none,
with the implication that this is suspicious ...
Boyd Gatten, GL of New Jersey, was killed.

--Janet Wintermute
Eastern Order of International Co-Freemasonry
Atlanta Lodge #21
Torence
2009-02-21 14:20:51 UTC
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What is important to recognize out from that dastardly action, is
not only who sacrificed that day; but who has since set aside any
temporal and personal dealings to give answer to the Thugs. Individual
Masons figure prominently among those who have done their part; and I
think it time that the organized fraternity across the free world to
declare ourselves free from any notion that we need pander to
totalitarian religions. In 1950, the fraternity took a significant
stand against Communism because it declared itself to be organized for
world domination, an end which it wished to achieve via any means.
While our FreeMasonic Organization has a rule against the discussion
of religion and politics, it is not an absolute prohibition. In
American Lodges we start with a Pledge to the Flag just as the Queen
and her family are often honored in those jurisdictions where the
Monarchy is important and with which we share communication. All
lodges open and close with prayer and use scripture to set the tone
and illustrate the examples set out for us by each degree.
In Freemasonry, the words “Religion” and “Politics” have both a
general and abstract connotation. By Religion, Masons may mean the
general apprehension or conviction of the existence of a Supreme
Being, accompanied by the appropriate reverence, or the narrower
systems of faith, creeds, dogma, doctrines etc. By Politics,
FreeMasons may mean the science or art of government, or it may mean
the specific administration of public affairs, theology and
governmental principles. A discussion of either religion and/or
politics, therefore, can mean something that may not involve
controversial questions. The broad underlying characteristics of each
and the maintenance of the foundation tenets are permitted discussion
as all Masons have a vested stake in assuring that these things
unalterably stand. Only the narrow or specific subjects are
controversial and these details are thusly banned from discussion in a
Masonic body.
If these conditions were untrue, then Masonry could not discuss
such aspect of our fraternity as Monotheism, a faith and belief in the
True, Ever Living and Only God, the All-Wise Supreme Being and our
dependence on His bounty. A ban on the discussion of any form of
politics even in a general way would deny us the opportunity to
declare our loyalty to our American or Other Country. Movements,
therefore, whether Religious or Political that attack the basic
principles of Freemasonry, such as Communism or Religious Fanaticism
are therefore freely available and proper discussion for Masonic
discourse and engagement. Many of our brothers have engaged the enemy
personally, and we will honor them by publicly and openly joining with
them. The Fraternity at Large should not feel the need to curtail any
expression of our convictions. They are, after all, universal among
us.

Fraternally,
Torence Evans Ake
Senior Deacon – Auburn Park Lodge No. 789 – Crete, Illinois
PM – Arcadia Lodge No. 1138 – Lansing, Illinois
BradGuth
2009-04-07 20:40:55 UTC
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Post by R***@hotmail.com
Were any Freemasons killed in 9/11?
Does anyone know of a url that refers to any being killed?
It has been suggested in another usenet group that there were none,
with the implication that this is suspicious ...
Everyone that died in 911 was a pretend-Atheist and apparently
belonged to no club, cartel or cabal. Go figure.

~ BG

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