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Town Hall Meetings in Illinois
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Torence
2011-04-30 03:24:07 UTC
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Last night, Our Grand Lodge Officers and the Principle Officers etc. of the Northeastern Area gathered together for an enjoyable and informative Town Hall Meeting in Joliet. It was a good evening, the sort of get together that will prove to do one thing for us, gather together and then strengthen the links that ultimately unite us. With the use of this new tool, these THMs, Our Grand Master has accomplished the first objective of Our Masonic society. He and his ensemble of Managers have successfully educated the Craft that we are made up of just that…Us. And, it is up to Us to decide what it is that we will do together.

The new feature of our revised website to open up this forum is designed to spark new interest; and accolades are due to the Brothers who have developed and are at work each day maintaining it. Our quick and brevet annual Grand Lodge session is the poorest of forums with which to accomplish our necessary work; and any fresh approaches are best hashed out somewhere else ahead of time with an equal voice given to every Mason who contributes his time and resources as we will have it here.

The Truth about our alliance is that no matter what our individual roles are in this Society, we are always traveling together and upon the Level. Every man here has shared the experience of candidate dress, a costume that proved to only be capable of being acquired in a singular and mutual fashion, one leg at time (with remarkably varying intervals between each leg).

In our group last night at the THM, an interesting promise was solicited and received of our current and scheduled line of succession. R.W. Brother Jethroe Smith asked that each of them commit to maintaining the Illinois work as it has been given to us, i.e. the “Standard” Work; and each replied that He would do his part to do so.

Though R.W. Smith and I have been the best of Masonic friends for the longest of time (he was my coach when I went through the degree process in 1985), I do not concur with his viewpointthat adhering to the provisions of Code 368 is the healthiest condition for our Craft.

This thread is about Participation. And, IMHO, modern participation is has suffered by the impositions of past generations, many of whom sought for themselves a monopoly on the work, even in death. It is usually a surprise to most Illinois Masons to discover that much of the old work has been reformatted to suit the sensibilities of others who are no longer among us; and yet somehow they miraculously continue to dictate to us the Terms of Our Masonic Service.

The old thinking was, for example, that as Masonry is not a religion as such it would be improper for our Masonic Leadership to assume the role of dictating to the Craft how it is that an individual Mason must pray. And, to affirm this old policy, we used to have for us, before M.W. Brother Delmar Darrah’s revisions in 1914, a variety of prayers from which a Chaplain could choose to Open the Lodge. Here is one of the old alternatives:

“Most Holy and Glorious Lord God, the Great Architect of the Universe; the Giver of All Good Gifts and Graces: Thou hast promised that ‘where two or three are gathered in Thy Name, Thou wilt be in their midst and Bless them. In Thy Name we have assembled, and in Thy Name we desire to proceed in all our doings. Grant that the sublime principles of FreeMasonry may so subdue every discordant passion within us, so harmonize and enrich our hearts with Thine own Love and Goodness, that the Lodge at this time may humbly reflect that order and beauty which reign forever before Thy throne. Amen.”

I suggest that Exhibitionary Lodges be devised, Lodges which may incorporate into their shows some of this old work, and also open up the possibility to do Occasional Work from foreign jurisdictions, Emulation Ritual, or other alternatives to the “Standard” or “Ordinary” work. What fun could we have by turning for one another new phrases and changing up the show a bit? If the notion of doing so interests you, please express it. If such a change offends you, please explain for us, here, why.

Thank you for your patience on such a long read.

Fraternally,
Torence Evans Ake
Secretary – Auburn Park Lodge No. 789 – Crete, Illinois
HM – Triluminar Lodge No. 767 – Lansing, Illinois
PM – Arcadia Lodge No. 1138 – Lansing, Illinois
David Thomson
2011-05-01 16:25:46 UTC
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Bro. Torence,

I am presently practicing to become a CLI within the Grand Lodge of Illinois. It is hard enough that I was raised in Vermont and am a Past Master within the Grand Lodge of Vermont jurisdiction. The old ritual never dies, it becomes ingrained.

To open up Illinois lodges to earlier versions and the versions from other jurisdictions would invite confusion. If we want to hear Vermont ritual, we can always go to Vermont to hear it. But we do not want it taught alongside Canadian, English, and Kentucky ritual in our own lodges. Illinois ritual is what it is, regardless of how it came to be. Let us keep our lodges pure and things will be much simpler.

I agree that Freemasonry is a type of theater. The ritual is in someways arbitrary and can be improved in many ways. The same can be said for any theater. Imagine if the classic works of Shakespeare, Beethoven, Picasso, and even the Christian Gospels were continually rewritten and improved upon. Instead of having objects of distinctive art, we would have chaos as great masterpieces blend into a great communal mush. There would be no stability and no familiarity.

The same would happen to Freemasonry. If we keep changing Illinois Freemasonry then it becomes word-mush as young and old members compete with what version to use at the next initiation or lodge opening. Oh sure, it would be entertaining to hear variations, but whose variations will we hear next? What subtle religious or political belief will creep into the wording? Should it reflect the conservatives or the liberals views? Should it reflect fundamentalist or congregationalist views? We wouldn't intentionally put bias into the various rituals, but it would be there nonetheless.

The real issue isn't whether we can make Freemasonry more entertaining, but whether the present ritual adequately teaches morality and whether that message is still relevant to us, today. I think it does, and is.

Fraternally,

David W. Thomson III
WM Kinmundy Lodge #398, Kinmundy, Illinois
PM Social Lodge #38, Wilmington, Vermont
HM Mt. Vernon Lodge #31, Mt. Vernon, Illinois
HM John D. Moody Lodge #510, Iuka, Illinois
FM Vermont Lodge of Research
Doug Freyburger
2011-05-02 23:35:52 UTC
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Post by David Thomson
I am presently practicing to become a CLI within the Grand Lodge of
Illinois. It is hard enough that I was raised in Vermont and am a Past
Master within the Grand Lodge of Vermont jurisdiction. The old ritual
never dies, it becomes ingrained.
I was raised in California and went through the line there my first
time. The slight differences make me a poor to mediocre ritualist. I
have ended up focused on the meaning of the ritual and other topics
rather than fight the flow of slightly different words.
Post by David Thomson
To open up Illinois lodges to earlier versions and the versions from
other jurisdictions would invite confusion. If we want to hear Vermont
ritual, we can always go to Vermont to hear it. But we do not want it
taught alongside Canadian, English, and Kentucky ritual in our own
lodges. Illinois ritual is what it is, regardless of how it came to
be. Let us keep our lodges pure and things will be much simpler.
When I go to Scottish Rite and see a degree demonstrated by a Southern
Jurisdiction degree team and then a degree demonstrated by a Northern
Jurisdiction degree team, no one becomes confused. When I went to a
Spanish conferal using a translation of the California ritual, no one
became confused. When I saw a French first degree using a very old
version of ritual, no one became confused. I've never attended one of
the demonstration degrees by the travelling Oklahoma Indian costume
degree team but I've never heard of anyone getting confused by attending
one of their events.

Based on these experiences I do not think demonstatration degrees using
alternate ritual have any potential to cause confusion.

Good luck finding a degree team with the time to learn the material,
though. It would be a fun project for Allied Masonic Degrees which is a
concordant body. It's the natural domain of their activities to conduct
alternative and semi-forgetten degrees.
Post by David Thomson
If we keep changing Illinois Freemasonry then it becomes word-mush as
young and old members compete with what version to use at the next
initiation or lodge opening. Oh sure, it would be entertaining to hear
variations, but whose variations will we hear next?
Objectively this happens anyways. Go to one of yout Certified Lodge
Instructor schools and pay attention to the latest change. The ritual
evolves slowly in every jurisdiction.
Post by David Thomson
What subtle religious or political belief will creep into the wording?
To cite a recent change in Illinois - During degrees with 2-3 candidates
at the altar at the same time, the current teaching is to have one
escort per candidate from the preparation room until after the
obligation is complete. Then the extra escorts abandon the extra
candidates and there is one conductor for all of the brothers. I tried
it that way during a first degree. Once. Never again. My new brother
was lost without a conductor. Ever since I have ignored the ritual
instructors and stayed with my new brother until he goes back out
through the door of the preparation room. (Note to self, send an email
to one of the members of the Ritual board about this recent change
reporting this problem).

To cite a much older change in Illinois - During the opening ceremony
the Junior Deacon conducts a "purge" of the lodge confirming that all
present are known to him as members of the degree being opened to. It
starts with a hack that he spins in place to see if anyone is sitting
next to the Senior Warden and then proceeds with a worse hack of
circling the lodge room counter clockwise from above. Whoever
introduced this change in the floor work had no idea of the symbolic
meaning of how motion on the floor maps to time.
Post by David Thomson
We wouldn't intentionally put bias into the various rituals, but it
would be there nonetheless.
It's already there.
Post by David Thomson
The real issue isn't whether we can make Freemasonry more entertaining,
but whether the present ritual adequately teaches morality and whether
that message is still relevant to us, today. I think it does, and is.
Folks interested in the social aspects expect the ritual to be
entertaining. Folks interested in the mystical/symbolic aspects expect
the ritual to be filled with meanings. We had a couple of generations
of men who joined lodge for the social events and it used to be rare to
ever meet any mystically inclined brothers. The new generation joining
is filled with young brothers interested in the meaning. Few of the old
generation are able to answer by vitue of never having had an interest
in the topic during their generation.

Fraternal regards,
Doug Freyburger
PM 2007-8 Arlington Heights 1162 Illinois AF&AM current SD
Hon Lombard 1098 Illinois AF&AM
PM 1999 Pasadena 272 California F&AM etc
David Thomson
2011-05-03 14:45:36 UTC
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Bro. Doug,

"When I go to Scottish Rite and see a degree demonstrated by a Southern
Jurisdiction degree team and then a degree demonstrated by a Northern
Jurisdiction degree team, no one becomes confused. ..."

I misunderstood your proposal. I thought you were suggesting that there was something wrong with the present Illinois ritual and that you wanted to change it.

But what it sounds like now is that you want to issue charters for a new type of lodge that resurrects discarded ritual and also exhibits the ritual from other jurisdictions. Is this correct?

Bro. Dave
Doug Freyburger
2011-05-03 23:10:31 UTC
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Post by Doug Freyburger
When I go to Scottish Rite and see a degree demonstrated by a Southern
Jurisdiction degree team and then a degree demonstrated by a Northern
Jurisdiction degree team, no one becomes confused. ..."
I thought you were suggesting that there was something wrong with the
present Illinois ritual and that you wanted to change it.
Now that you mention it, there are details I'd like to correct. But I
discussed that in another post and it's not someothing I have a major
drive to acheive. I am more interested in discussing such corrections
than I am in implementing such changes mostly because I'm more
interested in discussing the meanings contained withint the ritual than
I am interested in becoming word perfect at this particular ritual.
Post by David Thomson
But what it sounds like now is that you want to issue charters for a
new type of lodge that resurrects discarded ritual and also exhibits
the ritual from other jurisdictions. Is this correct?
That does appear to be W Bro Torrance's suggestion. I pointed out that
Allied Masonic Degrees is a conchordant body that already does that.

It's also true that a degree team can just decide to do a demonstration
ritual and do it. As long as it's not for a live candidate there are no
rules against doing that. The main hurdle is it draws away time from
working on the standard ritual by guys who generally aren't already
completely proficient at the standard ritual. Not a violation of any
rules but a conflict of efforts.

It would be fun, though.
R***@hotmail.com
2011-05-04 19:44:01 UTC
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Post by David Thomson
Post by Doug Freyburger
When I go to Scottish Rite and see a degree demonstrated by a Southern
Jurisdiction degree team and then a degree demonstrated by a Northern
Jurisdiction degree team, no one becomes confused. ..."
I thought you were suggesting that there was something wrong with the
present Illinois ritual and that you wanted to change it.
Now that you mention it, there are details I'd like to correct. But I
discussed that in another post and it's not someothing I have a major
drive to acheive. I am more interested in discussing such corrections
than I am in implementing such changes mostly because I'm more
interested in discussing the meanings contained withint the ritual than
I am interested in becoming word perfect at this particular ritual.
Post by David Thomson
But what it sounds like now is that you want to issue charters for a
new type of lodge that resurrects discarded ritual and also exhibits
the ritual from other jurisdictions. Is this correct?
That does appear to be W Bro Torrance's suggestion. I pointed out that
Allied Masonic Degrees is a conchordant body that already does that.
It's also true that a degree team can just decide to do a demonstration
ritual and do it. As long as it's not for a live candidate there are no
rules against doing that. The main hurdle is it draws away time from
working on the standard ritual by guys who generally aren't already
completely proficient at the standard ritual. Not a violation of any
rules but a conflict of efforts.
It would be fun, though.
I am looking for a script for a demonstration working for an early USA
working - any suggestions for who to contact?
Doug Freyburger
2011-05-05 04:51:30 UTC
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Post by R***@hotmail.com
I am looking for a script for a demonstration working for an early USA
working - any suggestions for who to contact?
Older ritual tends to be in unauthorized cypher books. Over the years a
number of them have come to me when families learn I'm a Mason who
collects Masonic material. They give me stuff from their father or
grandfather. So far the only ones I have are from California before the
GL authorized and published its own cypher blue book.

So I would start by asking around at used book stores if they have
access to estates that might have old lodge materials. And the research
lodge in your jurisdiction might already know of some or even have some
in its library.

As to widely published books other than Duncan, others mention such on
occasion. Who else knows where to look for the text of old rituals?
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