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A Bill for Masonic Rights and Duties
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Torence
2010-02-16 17:14:34 UTC
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Freemasonry stands for Rights, Rights that are often mirrored in
governmental contracts, Rights that are manifested further in Biblical
Text, and Rights that are inalienable and enviable whenever a society
meets and agrees upon them. But fundamental to the Masonic
understanding of the Rights of the individual, is also the Precept
that certain Duties that must be practiced in order for the desired
effects to result from stating our Rights such as permitting Strong
Men to remain Free as Distinct Entities though we may be engaged in
the most intimate of relationships.
Therefore, should our jurisdictions, then, ever adopt a Masonic Bill
of Rights each Right must be accompanied by a corresponding Masonic
Duty; and, it should be requisite that Masons understand the need for
us to state plainly, from time to time, our Rights and our Duties that
the real Power of our Organizational Planning remain directed to a
mutually agreeable and beneficial end.
So what are our Masonic Rights and our Masonic Duties? Scholarly
men, such as Albert Pike and other Masons, have attempted to collate
them into a workable form. Often they are merely reactionary changes
to temporal disturbances important for their time; but not necessarily
critical to future generations.
For example, one of these commonly accepted Rights is the Right for
a Lodge of Masons to perform the Three Principal Degrees in Masonry.
To a twenty-first century Mason, it may appear incongruous that there
would be a need to state that Fact as a Right. But during the
Nineteenth Century a distinct line needed to be drawn for Albert
Pike’s generation between Lodges and the Appending Rites. We should
state them plainly again because a recent generation of Grand Line
Officers, steeped in the fabled lore of these institutions, have
permitted that division to again be made unstable.
So a fundamental Masonic Right would be to affirm with brevity that
it is the Right of the Symbolic Blue Lodge to perform the Three
Principle Degrees in Masonry. The corresponding Duty, then of course,
would be that a Symbolic Blue Lodge must be capable of performing all
Three Degrees. The desired result is that all Chartered Lodges must
make the effort to form three degree teams of their own members and be
capable of getting this particular job done. Tough, yes, but this
Right and this Duty “constitutes” so much of exactly who we are and
precisely what it is that we do.
So, what are the other Masonic Rights and the other Masonic Duties
that such a Bill would incorporate? The machine works to execute them
are largely already in place in the Rightful Grand Lodge set-up to
enforce them. I have my list; but I am more interested in discovering
yours.

Fraternally,
Torence Evans Ake
Secretary – Auburn Park Lodge No. 789 – Crete, Illinois
PM – Arcadia Lodge No. 138 – Lansing, Illinois
Stuart H.
2010-02-16 21:57:59 UTC
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Post by Torence
Freemasonry stands for Rights, Rights that are often mirrored in
governmental contracts, Rights that are manifested further in Biblical
Text, and Rights that are inalienable and enviable whenever a society
meets and agrees upon them. But fundamental to the Masonic
understanding of the Rights of the individual, is also the Precept
that certain Duties that must be practiced in order for the desired
effects to result from stating our Rights such as permitting Strong
Men to remain Free as Distinct Entities though we may be engaged in
the most intimate of relationships.
Therefore, should our jurisdictions, then, ever adopt a Masonic Bill
of Rights each Right must be accompanied by a corresponding Masonic
Duty; and, it should be requisite that Masons understand the need for
us to state plainly, from time to time, our Rights and our Duties that
the real Power of our Organizational Planning remain directed to a
mutually agreeable and beneficial end.
So what are our Masonic Rights and our Masonic Duties? Scholarly
men, such as Albert Pike and other Masons, have attempted to collate
them into a workable form. Often they are merely reactionary changes
to temporal disturbances important for their time; but not necessarily
critical to future generations.
For example, one of these commonly accepted Rights is the Right for
a Lodge of Masons to perform the Three Principal Degrees in Masonry.
To a twenty-first century Mason, it may appear incongruous that there
would be a need to state that Fact as a Right. But during the
Nineteenth Century a distinct line needed to be drawn for Albert
Pike’s generation between Lodges and the Appending Rites. We should
state them plainly again because a recent generation of Grand Line
Officers, steeped in the fabled lore of these institutions, have
permitted that division to again be made unstable.
So a fundamental Masonic Right would be to affirm with brevity that
it is the Right of the Symbolic Blue Lodge to perform the Three
Principle Degrees in Masonry. The corresponding Duty, then of course,
would be that a Symbolic Blue Lodge must be capable of performing all
Three Degrees. The desired result is that all Chartered Lodges must
make the effort to form three degree teams of their own members and be
capable of getting this particular job done. Tough, yes, but this
Right and this Duty “constitutes” so much of exactly who we are and
precisely what it is that we do.
So, what are the other Masonic Rights and the other Masonic Duties
that such a Bill would incorporate? The machine works to execute them
are largely already in place in the Rightful Grand Lodge set-up to
enforce them. I have my list; but I am more interested in discovering
yours.
Fraternally,
Torence Evans Ake
Secretary – Auburn Park Lodge No. 789 – Crete, Illinois
PM – Arcadia Lodge No. 138 – Lansing, Illinois
May I respectfully suggest that instead of using the term "Symbolic Blue
Lodge", which is not a true Masonic term, but more Masonic slang, you
refer to the "Symbolic Craft Lodge", which is a more acceptable term
universally.

W.Bro. Stuart H.
Spruce Grove, Alberta
Mudge
2010-02-16 22:31:34 UTC
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Post by Torence
Freemasonry stands for Rights, Rights that are often mirrored in
governmental contracts, Rights that are manifested further in Biblical
Text, and Rights that are inalienable and enviable whenever a society
meets and agrees upon them. But fundamental to the Masonic
understanding of the Rights of the individual, is also the Precept
that certain Duties that must be practiced in order for the desired
effects to result from stating our Rights such as permitting Strong
Men to remain Free as Distinct Entities though we may be engaged in
the most intimate of relationships.
Therefore, should our jurisdictions, then, ever adopt a Masonic Bill
of Rights each Right must be accompanied by a corresponding Masonic
Duty; and, it should be requisite that Masons understand the need for
us to state plainly, from time to time, our Rights and our Duties that
the real Power of our Organizational Planning remain directed to a
mutually agreeable and beneficial end.
So what are our Masonic Rights and our Masonic Duties? Scholarly
men, such as Albert Pike and other Masons, have attempted to collate
them into a workable form. Often they are merely reactionary changes
to temporal disturbances important for their time; but not necessarily
critical to future generations.
For example, one of these commonly accepted Rights is the Right for
a Lodge of Masons to perform the Three Principal Degrees in Masonry.
To a twenty-first century Mason, it may appear incongruous that there
would be a need to state that Fact as a Right. But during the
Nineteenth Century a distinct line needed to be drawn for Albert
Pike’s generation between Lodges and the Appending Rites. We should
state them plainly again because a recent generation of Grand Line
Officers, steeped in the fabled lore of these institutions, have
permitted that division to again be made unstable.
So a fundamental Masonic Right would be to affirm with brevity that
it is the Right of the Symbolic Blue Lodge to perform the Three
Principle Degrees in Masonry. The corresponding Duty, then of course,
would be that a Symbolic Blue Lodge must be capable of performing all
Three Degrees. The desired result is that all Chartered Lodges must
make the effort to form three degree teams of their own members and be
capable of getting this particular job done. Tough, yes, but this
Right and this Duty “constitutes” so much of exactly who we are and
precisely what it is that we do.
So, what are the other Masonic Rights and the other Masonic Duties
that such a Bill would incorporate? The machine works to execute them
are largely already in place in the Rightful Grand Lodge set-up to
enforce them. I have my list; but I am more interested in discovering
yours.
I guess it would be quite impertinent to ask about our collective
Masonic "responsibilities" - but then, responsibility, is not a 21st
Century thing, is it ?
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BES (in Calgary)
Fix the biosphere - eliminate people
David Simpson
2010-02-17 00:27:42 UTC
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Post by Torence
Freemasonry stands for Rights, Rights that are often mirrored in
governmental contracts, Rights that are manifested further in Biblical
Text, and Rights that are inalienable and enviable whenever a society
meets and agrees upon them. But fundamental to the Masonic
understanding of the Rights of the individual, is also the Precept
that certain Duties that must be practiced in order for the desired
effects to result from stating our Rights such as permitting Strong
Men to remain Free as Distinct Entities though we may be engaged in
the most intimate of relationships.
Therefore, should our jurisdictions, then, ever adopt a Masonic Bill
of Rights each Right must be accompanied by a corresponding Masonic
Duty; and, it should be requisite that Masons understand the need for
us to state plainly, from time to time, our Rights and our Duties that
the real Power of our Organizational Planning remain directed to a
mutually agreeable and beneficial end.
So what are our Masonic Rights and our Masonic Duties? Scholarly
men, such as Albert Pike and other Masons, have attempted to collate
them into a workable form. Often they are merely reactionary changes
to temporal disturbances important for their time; but not necessarily
critical to future generations.
For example, one of these commonly accepted Rights is the Right for
a Lodge of Masons to perform the Three Principal Degrees in Masonry.
To a twenty-first century Mason, it may appear incongruous that there
would be a need to state that Fact as a Right. But during the
Nineteenth Century a distinct line needed to be drawn for Albert
Pike’s generation between Lodges and the Appending Rites. We should
state them plainly again because a recent generation of Grand Line
Officers, steeped in the fabled lore of these institutions, have
permitted that division to again be made unstable.
So a fundamental Masonic Right would be to affirm with brevity that
it is the Right of the Symbolic Blue Lodge to perform the Three
Principle Degrees in Masonry. The corresponding Duty, then of course,
would be that a Symbolic Blue Lodge must be capable of performing all
Three Degrees. The desired result is that all Chartered Lodges must
make the effort to form three degree teams of their own members and be
capable of getting this particular job done. Tough, yes, but this
Right and this Duty “constitutes” so much of exactly who we are and
precisely what it is that we do.
So, what are the other Masonic Rights and the other Masonic Duties
that such a Bill would incorporate? The machine works to execute them
are largely already in place in the Rightful Grand Lodge set-up to
enforce them. I have my list; but I am more interested in discovering
yours.
I guess it would be quite impertinent to ask about our collective
Masonic "responsibilities" - but then, responsibility, is not a 21st
Century thing, is it ?
Doesn't the term "duties" more than imply "responsibilities"?
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Regards
David Simpson
(Unattached MM, Victoria, Australia)
Someone is speaking well of you. How unusual!
Torence
2010-02-17 16:00:09 UTC
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Post by Mudge
I guess it would be quite impertinent to ask about our collective
Masonic "responsibilities" - but then, responsibility, is not a 21st
Century thing, is it ?
I believe that you and I are using the words "Duty" and
"Responsibility" interchangeably. Our responsibiilites to our God, our
Country, our Family, or Neighbor and Ourselves is Masonically deemed
our duty. Duty seems to me, if anything, then more specific.

Fraternally,
Torence Evans Ake
Secretary - Auburn Park Lodge No. 789 - Crete, Illinois
PM - Arcadia Lodge No. 1138 - Lansing, Illinois
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Doug Freyburger
2010-02-17 19:32:55 UTC
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Post by Torence
So, what are the other Masonic Rights and the other Masonic Duties
that such a Bill would incorporate? The machine works to execute them
are largely already in place in the Rightful Grand Lodge set-up to
enforce them. I have my list; but I am more interested in discovering
yours.
I guess it would be quite impertinent to ask about our collective
Masonic "responsibilities" - but then, responsibility, is not a 21st
Century thing, is it ?
I'm more optimistic given the young brothers now petitioning in large
numbers. To me it is the result of a new generation wanting more life
balance and taking more responsibility.

When I think about the issue of rights I get bogged down in the
tradeoffs between absolute morality and relative morality. Both have
advantages and disadvantages such that the optimum solution uses both
together. When I view this in terms of rights I think in terms of a
work in progress not a designed constitution.
Chris H
2010-02-18 02:40:17 UTC
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Post by Doug Freyburger
When I think about the issue of rights I get bogged down in the
tradeoffs between absolute morality and relative morality.
There is no such thing as absolute morality.
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Doug Freyburger
2010-02-18 21:08:54 UTC
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When I think about the issue of rights I get bogged down in the
tradeoffs between absolute morality and relative morality.
There is no such thing as absolute morality.
So much for the "Thou shalt not" stuff ...

I'll see you that and raise you one Heisenberg that any type of relative
morality is too transient to be considered as existing. ;^) As soon as
you try to measure it it's something else.
Chris H
2010-02-19 00:01:43 UTC
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Post by Doug Freyburger
When I think about the issue of rights I get bogged down in the
tradeoffs between absolute morality and relative morality.
There is no such thing as absolute morality.
So much for the "Thou shalt not" stuff ...
It's not absolute....
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Rob Sandilands
2010-02-17 13:56:01 UTC
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Freemasonry stands for Rights etc ...
... maybe after 30 odd years, I'm a bit of a grouch, but all this talk
about Bills of Rights and so on seems odd to me ...

... looking at our UGLQ set-up, we have the Constitutions and the
rulings of Grand Lodge from time to time ...

... at the local Lodge level, we have the Constitutions, the ritual, and
the Lodge By-Laws ...

... a Bill of Rights could only be a precis of various parts of these at
best, as they completely detail the rights, duties and responsibilities
of Lodges, Grand Lodge and the Brethren ...

... and, yes, our Constitutions specify what degrees may be worked in
UGLQ Lodges ...

... it was interesting to note that some Jurisdictions seem to feel the
need for three degree teams ... in our set up, the officers of the Lodge
are in place for all three degrees ... although certain major charges
can be allocated to other Brethren ... but the responsibility for the
work rests on the current office team ... the only changes in line
officers for a degree occur in the BOIM during installation ...
J. Bennie
2010-02-17 19:32:41 UTC
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a recent generation of Grand Line Officers
I should have *known* that was the reason for bringing this up again.

Jim, Vancouver
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